![]() ![]() Which brings us to the crux of this whole matter. He’s just asking if he is supposed to remain alone forever. In that, he’s not insisting that Miriel return, because she has said that she does not want to. Not only that, but the passage above clearly shows how bullshit your line about him repeatedly making advances on Miriel’s body is. Sure looks like a dude who is super upset about this whole thing to me. Notice how it talks about how great finwe’s grief is? Yeah i noticed that that was missing from this take. This is the passage dealing with this from the shibboleth. You cherry picked one specific version and then did some olympic level mental gymnastics to justify this “woke” “feminist” take. ![]() This is literally the least charitable reading of a character that I have ever seen. ![]() Ok so the last person to try to pick apart this flaming trainwreck of a post was suicide baited so let’s see how I go. And his remarriage and mishandling of all his parenting tasks causes all the later tragedy. I was kind of being hyperbolic in my first post but also not really. he’s like a guy on AITA asking if he’s the asshole for wanting a divorce because his wife spends all day dealing with postpartum depression and she’s no fun to be around. Finwë refuses to consider her needs, insisting that he be allowed to remarry because He’s Sad, Isn’t It Sad, Am Deprived, Need Wife. Míriel refuses to return, saying she left her body to escape great sorrow - which, yeah, can believe that if this is your husband’s reaction to no longer being able to get laid. He insists he’s entitled to a wife and more children, and he knows Míriel won’t come back, and he goes on and on about how he’s Lonely and Grieving and Sad and Miserable and the whole thing comes across like him whining about being deprived of sex ten years is an elvish minute, tbh, that’s like No Time At All. CROSS STITCH GRAPH OF A HORSE HEAD FULLSo in the full Statute of Finwë and Míriel as it appears in HoME volume 10, Míriel dies and leaves her body and goes to Mandos, and then ten presumably solar years later, Finwë goes crying to the Valar about how he can’t get laid anymore. What in the goddamn hell are you talking about I absolutely do not believe that Tolkien intended to make this extremely feminist point but it sure as hell is a feminist point Earlier today I was just about knocked over by the realization that if you accept the full Statute of Finwë and Míriel as canonical, the entire tragedy of the Silmarillion and of the Noldor is basically built on the fact that a man felt entitled to a woman’s body despite her continued and consistent refusal of his advances ![]()
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